# The Path to Self Hosting Retro is an image based Forth system running on a lightweight virtual machine. This is the story of how that image is made. The first Retro to use an image based approach was Retro 10. The earliest images were built using a compiler written in Toka, an earlier experimental stack language I had written. It didn't take long to want to drop the dependency on Toka, so I rewrote the image compiler in Retro and then began development at a faster pace. Retro 11 was built using the last Retro 10 image and an evolved version of the metacompiler. This worked well, but I eventually found it to be problematic. One of the issueo sI faced was the inability to make a new image from the prior stable release. Since I develop and test changes incrementally, I reached a point where the current metacompiler and image required each other. This wasn't a fatal flaw, but it was annoying. Perhaps more critical was the fragility of the system. In R11 small mistakes could result in a corrupt image. The test suite helped identify some of these, but there were a few times I was forced to dig back through the version control history to recover a working image. The fragile nature was amplified by some design decisions. In R11, after the initial kernel was built, it would be moved to memory address 0, then control would jump into the new kernel to finish building the higher level parts. Handling this was a tricky task. In R11 almost everything could be revectored, so the metacompiler had to ensure that it didn't rely on anything in the old image during the move. This caused a large number of issues over R11's life. So on to Retro 12. I decided that this would be different. First, the kernel would be assembly, with an external tool to generate the core image. The kernel is in `Rx.md` and the assembler is `Muri`. To load the standard library, I wrote a second tool, `retro-extend`. This separation has allowed me many fewer headaches as I can make changes more easily and rebuild from scratch when necessary. But I miss self-hosting. So last fall I decided to resolve this. And today I'm pleased to say that it is now done. There are a few parts to this. **Unu**. I use a Markdown variation with fenced code blocks. The tool I wrote in C to extract these is called `unu`. For a self hosting Retro, I rewrote this as a combinator that reads in a file and runs another word against each line in the file. So I could display the code block contents by doing: 'filename [ s:put nl ] unu This made it easier to implement the other tools. **Muri**. This is my assembler. It's minimalistic, fast, and works really well for my purposes. Retro includes a runtime version of this (using `as{`, `}as`, `i`, `d`, and `r`), so all I needed for this was to write a few words to parse the lines and run the corresponding runtime words. As with the C version, this is a two pass assembler. Muri generates a new `ngaImage` with the kernel. To create a full image I needed a way to load in the standard library and I/O extensions. This is handled by **retro-extend**. This is where it gets more complex. I implemented the Nga virtual machine in Retro to allow this to run the new image in isolation from the host image. The new ngaImage is loaded, the interpreter is located, and each token is passed to the interpreter. Once done, the new image is written to disk. So at this point I'm pleased to say that I can now develop Retro using only an existing copy of Retro (VM+image) and tools (unu, muri, retro-extend, and a line oriented text editor) written in Retro. This project has delivered some additional side benefits. During the testing I was able to use it to identify a few bugs in the I/O extensions, and the Nga-in-Retro will replace the older attempt at this in the debugger, allowing a safer testing environment. What issues remain? The extend process is *slow*. On my main development server (Linode 1024, OpenBSD 6.4, 64-bit) it takes a bit over five minutes to complete loading the standard library, and a few additional depending on the I/O drivers selected. Most of the performance issues come from running Nga-in-Retro to isolate the new image from the host one. It'd be possible to do something a bit more clever (e.g., running a Retro instance using the new image via a subprocess and piping in the source, or doing relocations of the data), but this is less error prone and will work on all systems that I plan to support (including, with a few minor adjustments, the native hardware versions [assuming the existance of mass storage]). Sources: **Unu** http://forth.works/c8820f85e0c52d32c7f9f64c28f435c0 gopher://forth.works/0/c8820f85e0c52d32c7f9f64c28f435c0 **Muri** http://forth.works/09d6c4f3f8ab484a31107dca780058e3 gopher://forth.works/0/09d6c4f3f8ab484a31107dca780058e3 **retro-extend** http://forth.works/c812416f397af11db58e97388a3238f2 gopher://forth.works/0/c812416f397af11db58e97388a3238f2